Douglas McGregor has been mentioned a couple of times in the above discussion. Here is the latest from him https://youtu.be/k0BhWNWl0Q0
One point that is missing from the discussions above is the role of bureaucracy in the EU. The power of bureaucracy seems to vary from country to country and I think that is like a deep state in EU. In India it is generally subservient to politicians and the deep state seems to be some sort of Hindutva RSS combine. Intone US it may be associated to the military industrial congressional complex. What about Russia, China etc?
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